Ragging Inwards Iitk
A grouping of 2d twelvemonth students telephone phone a grouping of 1st twelvemonth students, inquire them to withdraw all clothing in addition to press each others' genitals. The abuses in addition to acts final for hours. (There are other things that have got happened. But allow me non waste product fourth dimension inwards describing everything inwards all their gory details.)
What is foreign is non that this happened, but the widespread back upwards this activity enjoys, the sort of justification that are beingness given (of course, anonymously on IITK Confessions page on facebook), in addition to how it is non ragging, in addition to how it is non sexual harassment. So what are those justifications:
1. The initiative of all is that this is utilization of "IIT Kanpur culture" in addition to professors won't empathise the value of civilization anyway, in addition to thus this should non have got been investigated past times a commission where the bulk of members are professors.
2. We (the 2d twelvemonth students) are doing a peachy favor to 1st twelvemonth students past times doing something to them which nosotros ourselves don't enjoy, but has to hold upwards done. This volition initiate them into adulthood, they volition function past times to a greater extent than mature, to a greater extent than confident. They volition hold upwards able to lead maintain hard situations inwards life to a greater extent than easily. By reading those "confessions" it seemed that sexual harassment is a magic that at i time converts a shy villager into a confident Kanpuriya.
3. This is the toll they have got to pay for all the assist that they volition acquire from us inwards the adjacent 3 years of our overlap alongside them, in addition to fifty-fifty after graduation. Isn't this such a tiny price.
4. Of course, this was completely voluntary. Anyone could have, at whatever stage, said that they are feeling uncomfortable in addition to they would have got been allow go. After all, it was for their ain good. What produce nosotros leave of absence of this, nothing. And consensual acts cannot hold upwards considered equally ragging or harassment.
5. The offset twelvemonth students are advised past times their respective Student Guides to function past times through this tradition. Now, if the Institute Counseling Service, who are the offset business of defence forcefulness against ragging, is itself advising the students to function past times through this tradition, apparently they mean value that it is non ragging.
Then in that location are people who fence that fifty-fifty if it is ragging, no activeness should hold upwards taken against the students involved. Their arguments include:
1. It would hold upwards impossible to acquire proof of anyone's involvement. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 distich of 1st twelvemonth students naming someone cannot hold upwards considered equally a proof. They have got but come upwards inwards in addition to could easily hold upwards confused nearly the identities of people who are present. And in that location is no video recording or photographs of such events. So, if nosotros entirely consider retention of a 1st twelvemonth pupil equally evidence, nosotros would hold upwards punishing many innocents. If nosotros produce non have got whatever other proof, everyone should acquire a produce goodness of doubt. (Of course, they have got been roughly for a month, in addition to inwards many cases have got met those 2d twelvemonth students multiple times.)
2. It has been going on for several years. Counseling Service (read, Student Guides) has been involved. When several 100 students acquire sexually harassed (if you lot tin give the axe telephone phone it sexual harassment), is it possible that wardens did non know, Dean did non know, the caput of Counseling Service did non know, the anti-ragging commission did non know. Of course, everyone must have got known, in addition to nevertheless they did non fifty-fifty number a warning. If in addition to so many regime knew in addition to did non fifty-fifty warn, nosotros tin give the axe entirely conclude that this was acceptable to the Institute. We e'er idea that consensual acts are non ragging. Now, if you lot are changing the rules of the game, the novel rules tin give the axe entirely hold upwards applicable prospectively in addition to non retrospectively.
3. Even this year, this has been done past times 100s of students. The Institute has been able to rate entirely a few (because entirely a few stupid in addition to weak offset twelvemonth students have got given complaints). Is it fair to penalize a few for something that has been done past times a large number of students. (If you lot can't grab all criminals, you lot shouldn't rate whatever criminal inwards jail.)
Now, my bring on this.
I experience actually lamentable when an IIT Kanpur pupil tries to fence that sexual harassment for a few hours is non ragging, is for the produce goodness of 1st twelvemonth student. In 2017 when in that location appears to hold upwards a consensus inwards the club that ragging never helped in addition to in that location are improve ways to have got introductions in addition to brand friends, our pupil torso appears to hold upwards stuck inwards the 20th century beliefs. The faculty e'er blame the societal ills for pupil indiscipline. If students cheat inwards exams, it is because of what they consider inwards the society. But inwards this case, the club has moved on. And it is entirely based on what they have got learnt at IITK. We must bring those to chore who were responsible for ensuring that such things don't happen. What were previous Deans in addition to Associate Deans doing. What was Chairpersons of counseling service doing.
The entirely signal I lead maintain alongside is that innocent students must non hold upwards punished, peculiarly if the penalty is removal from IIT Kanpur. I promise the commission has reasonable evidence against each of the 22 students whom they have got recommended for termination. And but to satisfy the pupil torso that due diligence has indeed been done, may hold upwards the commission tin give the axe indeed invite all these 22 students in addition to beak to them for a few minutes each. May hold upwards some of them volition hold upwards able to convince the commission that they were non acquaint when this human activeness happened in addition to could hold upwards given the produce goodness of doubt. The others, of course, must hold upwards removed from the rolls of the Institute.
My prediction. The electrical current Director, Prof. Manna, has entirely vii weeks left inwards his term. Throughout his term, he has been real reluctant to punish whatever student, fifty-fifty for grave issues. In a few instances where the affair reached Senate in addition to Senate decided on a tough punishment, he has taken the affair dorsum to Senate after a few months, in addition to requested them to undo the before punishment. Even inwards this case, equally per the law, an FIR should have got been lodged against all these 22 students. (Even if some of them are innocent, that is upwards to the legal procedure to observe out.) But it hasn't been done fifty-fifty though it is almost i calendar month since the complaints were received in addition to 10 days since the commission study has been received. One of the recommendation of the commission is to withdraw the President Students Gymkhana from his rate since he has been named inwards i of the complaints equally abetting ragging. Even though the recommendation was initially accepted past times the Director, fifty-fifty this has non been implemented. The affair of outcome has been forwarded to Senate equally per rules. The Senate coming together is on 21st September (Thursday). My ain prediction is that the affair volition non hold upwards discussed inwards Senate on that day. If it indeed gets discussed, the chances are that the disciplinary commission (SSAC) volition hold upwards asked to produce additional due diligence. The Director cannot afford to allow Senate rusticate 22 students, since he does non have got fourth dimension left to come upwards dorsum to Senate a few months afterwards to undo the rustication.
The other number is the feeling of 2d twelvemonth students that they are the best good wishers of 1st twelvemonth students. In all my interaction alongside 1st twelvemonth students, I e'er enjoin them to avoid seeking whatever advice from 2d twelvemonth students. They are real immature, in addition to have got actually non experienced plenty to response questions of 1st twelvemonth students. I e'er suggest them to contact third or fourth twelvemonth students. When I was at LNMIIT, nosotros made certain that 1st twelvemonth students lived inwards the same hostel equally third twelvemonth students. At IIITD too, when a mentorship plan was beingness designed, it was decided that entirely third in addition to fourth twelvemonth students should hold upwards mentors. Once the offset twelvemonth students have got spent a few months on campus, they would know which 2d twelvemonth students tin give the axe give practiced advice (and of course, 2d twelvemonth students volition also mature equally weeks in addition to months function past times by).
Lately, I am interacting alongside many folks from IIT Gandhinagar, Ashoka University in addition to IIIT Delhi, in addition to I observe that inwards all these places, the relationships across batches are far stronger in addition to to a greater extent than mature than relationships at IIT Kanpur, in addition to all these iii places have got no ragging. So this whole thesis that ragging is practiced for offset twelvemonth students in addition to in that location is no improve vogue to forge friendships is land in addition to elementary bullshit.
IIT Kanpur has no selection but to function past times a ragging complimentary zone again.
What is foreign is non that this happened, but the widespread back upwards this activity enjoys, the sort of justification that are beingness given (of course, anonymously on IITK Confessions page on facebook), in addition to how it is non ragging, in addition to how it is non sexual harassment. So what are those justifications:
1. The initiative of all is that this is utilization of "IIT Kanpur culture" in addition to professors won't empathise the value of civilization anyway, in addition to thus this should non have got been investigated past times a commission where the bulk of members are professors.
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2. We (the 2d twelvemonth students) are doing a peachy favor to 1st twelvemonth students past times doing something to them which nosotros ourselves don't enjoy, but has to hold upwards done. This volition initiate them into adulthood, they volition function past times to a greater extent than mature, to a greater extent than confident. They volition hold upwards able to lead maintain hard situations inwards life to a greater extent than easily. By reading those "confessions" it seemed that sexual harassment is a magic that at i time converts a shy villager into a confident Kanpuriya.
3. This is the toll they have got to pay for all the assist that they volition acquire from us inwards the adjacent 3 years of our overlap alongside them, in addition to fifty-fifty after graduation. Isn't this such a tiny price.
4. Of course, this was completely voluntary. Anyone could have, at whatever stage, said that they are feeling uncomfortable in addition to they would have got been allow go. After all, it was for their ain good. What produce nosotros leave of absence of this, nothing. And consensual acts cannot hold upwards considered equally ragging or harassment.
5. The offset twelvemonth students are advised past times their respective Student Guides to function past times through this tradition. Now, if the Institute Counseling Service, who are the offset business of defence forcefulness against ragging, is itself advising the students to function past times through this tradition, apparently they mean value that it is non ragging.
Then in that location are people who fence that fifty-fifty if it is ragging, no activeness should hold upwards taken against the students involved. Their arguments include:
1. It would hold upwards impossible to acquire proof of anyone's involvement. Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 distich of 1st twelvemonth students naming someone cannot hold upwards considered equally a proof. They have got but come upwards inwards in addition to could easily hold upwards confused nearly the identities of people who are present. And in that location is no video recording or photographs of such events. So, if nosotros entirely consider retention of a 1st twelvemonth pupil equally evidence, nosotros would hold upwards punishing many innocents. If nosotros produce non have got whatever other proof, everyone should acquire a produce goodness of doubt. (Of course, they have got been roughly for a month, in addition to inwards many cases have got met those 2d twelvemonth students multiple times.)
2. It has been going on for several years. Counseling Service (read, Student Guides) has been involved. When several 100 students acquire sexually harassed (if you lot tin give the axe telephone phone it sexual harassment), is it possible that wardens did non know, Dean did non know, the caput of Counseling Service did non know, the anti-ragging commission did non know. Of course, everyone must have got known, in addition to nevertheless they did non fifty-fifty number a warning. If in addition to so many regime knew in addition to did non fifty-fifty warn, nosotros tin give the axe entirely conclude that this was acceptable to the Institute. We e'er idea that consensual acts are non ragging. Now, if you lot are changing the rules of the game, the novel rules tin give the axe entirely hold upwards applicable prospectively in addition to non retrospectively.
3. Even this year, this has been done past times 100s of students. The Institute has been able to rate entirely a few (because entirely a few stupid in addition to weak offset twelvemonth students have got given complaints). Is it fair to penalize a few for something that has been done past times a large number of students. (If you lot can't grab all criminals, you lot shouldn't rate whatever criminal inwards jail.)
Now, my bring on this.
I experience actually lamentable when an IIT Kanpur pupil tries to fence that sexual harassment for a few hours is non ragging, is for the produce goodness of 1st twelvemonth student. In 2017 when in that location appears to hold upwards a consensus inwards the club that ragging never helped in addition to in that location are improve ways to have got introductions in addition to brand friends, our pupil torso appears to hold upwards stuck inwards the 20th century beliefs. The faculty e'er blame the societal ills for pupil indiscipline. If students cheat inwards exams, it is because of what they consider inwards the society. But inwards this case, the club has moved on. And it is entirely based on what they have got learnt at IITK. We must bring those to chore who were responsible for ensuring that such things don't happen. What were previous Deans in addition to Associate Deans doing. What was Chairpersons of counseling service doing.
The entirely signal I lead maintain alongside is that innocent students must non hold upwards punished, peculiarly if the penalty is removal from IIT Kanpur. I promise the commission has reasonable evidence against each of the 22 students whom they have got recommended for termination. And but to satisfy the pupil torso that due diligence has indeed been done, may hold upwards the commission tin give the axe indeed invite all these 22 students in addition to beak to them for a few minutes each. May hold upwards some of them volition hold upwards able to convince the commission that they were non acquaint when this human activeness happened in addition to could hold upwards given the produce goodness of doubt. The others, of course, must hold upwards removed from the rolls of the Institute.
My prediction. The electrical current Director, Prof. Manna, has entirely vii weeks left inwards his term. Throughout his term, he has been real reluctant to punish whatever student, fifty-fifty for grave issues. In a few instances where the affair reached Senate in addition to Senate decided on a tough punishment, he has taken the affair dorsum to Senate after a few months, in addition to requested them to undo the before punishment. Even inwards this case, equally per the law, an FIR should have got been lodged against all these 22 students. (Even if some of them are innocent, that is upwards to the legal procedure to observe out.) But it hasn't been done fifty-fifty though it is almost i calendar month since the complaints were received in addition to 10 days since the commission study has been received. One of the recommendation of the commission is to withdraw the President Students Gymkhana from his rate since he has been named inwards i of the complaints equally abetting ragging. Even though the recommendation was initially accepted past times the Director, fifty-fifty this has non been implemented. The affair of outcome has been forwarded to Senate equally per rules. The Senate coming together is on 21st September (Thursday). My ain prediction is that the affair volition non hold upwards discussed inwards Senate on that day. If it indeed gets discussed, the chances are that the disciplinary commission (SSAC) volition hold upwards asked to produce additional due diligence. The Director cannot afford to allow Senate rusticate 22 students, since he does non have got fourth dimension left to come upwards dorsum to Senate a few months afterwards to undo the rustication.
The other number is the feeling of 2d twelvemonth students that they are the best good wishers of 1st twelvemonth students. In all my interaction alongside 1st twelvemonth students, I e'er enjoin them to avoid seeking whatever advice from 2d twelvemonth students. They are real immature, in addition to have got actually non experienced plenty to response questions of 1st twelvemonth students. I e'er suggest them to contact third or fourth twelvemonth students. When I was at LNMIIT, nosotros made certain that 1st twelvemonth students lived inwards the same hostel equally third twelvemonth students. At IIITD too, when a mentorship plan was beingness designed, it was decided that entirely third in addition to fourth twelvemonth students should hold upwards mentors. Once the offset twelvemonth students have got spent a few months on campus, they would know which 2d twelvemonth students tin give the axe give practiced advice (and of course, 2d twelvemonth students volition also mature equally weeks in addition to months function past times by).
Lately, I am interacting alongside many folks from IIT Gandhinagar, Ashoka University in addition to IIIT Delhi, in addition to I observe that inwards all these places, the relationships across batches are far stronger in addition to to a greater extent than mature than relationships at IIT Kanpur, in addition to all these iii places have got no ragging. So this whole thesis that ragging is practiced for offset twelvemonth students in addition to in that location is no improve vogue to forge friendships is land in addition to elementary bullshit.
IIT Kanpur has no selection but to function past times a ragging complimentary zone again.
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